Friday, September 15, 2006

What "Reality" Is That Community Based On, Exactly?

From a spirited discussion over at Ishbadiddle:
As for the "Hole," it is what psychologists and psychiatrists a "presenting issue." It was a jumping point from which to talk about "impeachable offenses," the squandering of an overwhelming consensus of goodwill, the cynicism of the administration, and a strong rebuttal to the claim that dissent is treasonous, let alone Liberalism (see the aforementioned Ms. Coulter).

The "Hole" was a vehicle through which to make [Olbermann's] compelling arguments. IMHO, it was a "slam dunk."


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So, lets assume (though I think it's extremely farfetched) that Bush is at some point successfully impeached.

Liberals Win! Dick Cheney is President!

Hmmm. Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time....

Seriously, as soon as the word "impeach" comes up my mind instantly goes into blah blah blah blah blah blah mode; serious discussion has effectively left the establishment in search of an environment with cleaner floors and less spittle in the air.

But moving on....

The excellent question "I wonder whether the general political discourse was ever any good" was raised, then effectively dropped in favor of more slings and arrows.

The answer I think is "probably not" but that raises the counter-question "so what?" It's exactly sites like Ishbadiddle (and hopefully to some degree this one) that can make the discourse better. And it irritates the hell out of me when people who I know are smart and sophisticated crawl down into the gutter to play the same games as the worst of both Left and Right and Beyond the Pale.

God I hope the Democrats can come up with a decent Presidential candidate in '08. What I hope more is that whoever wins then wins big.

This broad-spectrum embrace of the politics of destruction is really getting on my long-term nerves.

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